Interview With Tim Martin of Gallagher Sports

mlsEarlier today, Footiebusiness.com posted about San Jose’s recent sponsorship deal with Amway. Tim Martin, a 10 year veteran of the sports marketing field and the President of soccer marketing entity Gallagher Sports, lauded the deal in a recent article for ESPN.com.  Mr. Martin has worked for a number of major brands in an array of sports marketing categories and has negotiated tens of millions of dollars of sponsorship agreements.  He was kind enough to answer a few questions posed by Footiebusiness.com:

Footiebusiness.com:  Despite the obvious positives of bringing money to San Jose,  some fans have wondered whether adding Amway to the League’s other two multi-level marketing jersey sponsors (Xango & Herbalife) either diminishes the standing of the League or creates an association that could be harmful. Do you think those are legitimate concerns?

 

Tim Martin: They are certainly legitimate concerns, because each of those MLM’s has had noteworthy and seemingly legitimate legal and/or scientific complaints registered against them in the past.  At the end of the day, however, it needs to be a decision weighed, and ultimately made, by the club, based off of its unique goals and objectives.  We are also in an unprecedented economic environment where almost no industry is immune to public scrutiny when it comes to where they are spending what may be perceived to be the public’s money.  Two years ago an observer may very well have listed major financial institutions and auto makers as two of the best and most stable of industries from which a club could secure a shirt sponsor.  That was before congressional hearings and TARP funding became staples of the evening news broadcasts and cast major sponsorship funding in an entirely new light.  At times like this, there is risk in just about any sponsorship.  If there were 15 multi-level marketing companies across the front of MLS jerseys, it may be indicative of a problem.  3 of out 15, however speaks to sponsor category diversity.


FB: The League has been working hard to market the game to a younger, “hard core” fan base for a while now.  Do you think Amway’s product line a good match for this type of crowd? Who are they trying to attract?

TM: I do not think that Amway’s products are necessarily a good fit for such a target, however, without having a working knowledge of Amway’s marketing strategies, its difficult to say exactly who they are targeting, particularly because they are so diverse.  The one thing that I believe is safe to assume is that they find the Quakes (and MLS) a global medium for broadcasting their brand, and must feel that the impressions they will receive around the world are worthy of the investment.


FB: There are now four clubs without jersey sponsors.  Do you think sponsorships deals are in the works for those clubs?  Fans are amazed that teams like the Revs, Rapids and Dallas (with the power and business acumen of  Kraft, Kroenke, etc..)  have not landed a sponsorship.  In your mind, what are those teams looking for, and what should they be looking for in a deal?

T.M. I’m fairly certain that any club without a jersey sponsor is actively pursuing one.  Its far too great of a potential financial resource not to be.  Each club, however, will assign a different value to the front of their shirt, and by value I don’t just mean a certain sum of money, but also cognizance of the brand they are associating themselves with.  This is very relatable to your first question in that it all comes down to the goals and objectives of the club.  It’s possible that these remaining clubs have had offers from multi level marketers, or casinos, or tobacco companies, and simply choose not to go into business with them due to an organizational belief system (I have no first-hand knowledge of any such offers, just using that as an example).


F.B. Some of the first deals have now been in place for a couple of seasons.  Do you think that the sponsors have realized the intended benefits from these deals?

T.M. Again, not knowing each sponsors specific goals and objectives for striking these deals in the first place it’s impossible to say for certain how they feel these deals are working for them.  I think that at least one success story would be Glidden and the Columbus Crew.  First and foremost, they bought the sponsorship at what would today be considered a great value price of $1M per year.  Little could they possibly have known at the time that a former Boca Juniors legend would guide the franchise to its first title while providing the brand with unprecedented exposure in South America, on top of what they also obviously received in the States.  It can also be reasonably assumed that Herbalife has received adequate value back on their $4M+ investment through worldwide Beckham jersey sales alone, and the exposure that they provide.

Once again, many thanks to Tim Martin of Gallagher Sports. To the readers of Footiebusiness.com, what do you think about Amway coming into the League, or about shirt sponsors in MLS?

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9 Responses

  1. Some valid thoughts, but the idea of msm makeup seller being in every shot of the Quakes on each tv sportscast in San Jose doesn’t exactly fill me with joy.

  2. It seems to me that the interview itself lends credence to the importance of Amway doing deals like this with regards their brands. When asked whether “Amway’s product line” is a “good fit” for the Quake’s audience the response is –

    I do not think that Amway’s products are necessarily a good fit for such a target,

    What products are you talking about exactly? Mackarel in the comments talks about it being a “makeup seller”, which is partly true, Amway markets one of the world’s top cosmetics brands, Artistry. I think however the “target” for the Quakes deal is Amway’s Nutrilite and XS Energy drink products. Sports nutrition and Energy drinks clearly fit the bill as appropriate for the market segment.

    Where these the products Tim Martin had in mind or was he, as I suspect, still in 1970’s Amway soap mode?

  3. It is interesting (to me) that the shirt will say “Amway” instead of “Nutralite” The Sounders will have “x-box” on their shirts, not “Microsoft”

    Amway does have a wider array of products out there than normally associated with the name, it is somewhat surprising that the shirt is not focused on that.

  4. Any idea of what effect a jersey sponsor has upon sales of replica jerseys to the public? Obviously the Galaxy didn’t have a problem with Beckham, but that would appear to be a unique situation.

  5. I agree, elsewhere in the sports arena where they’ve sponsored things like the Orange County Marathon or say AC Milan they’ve gone for a particular brand like Nutrilite. Same with fashion shows and Artistry.

    What’s the female:male ratio like at Quake’s games? A bit difficult to have both Artistry and Nutrilite on the jersey! They also mentioned in the press conference that part of the reason for partnering with the Quake’s is the large hispanic community, which makes up a significant component of the market for the Amway business opportunity as opposed to the products. So I guess it makes sense from their perspective to go with the Amway brand overall and then do more specific marketing targeted to the product brands.

  6. Dan:

    You ask an interesting question. I think most soccer fans accept the sponsorship as “part of the deal”. However, I have found that those that became fans of soccer thorough MLS, are far less receptive to the ideal of jersey sponsorships.

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