Marketing in America: An Interview with Trevor Bolliger of SoccerPro.com

December 17, 2009

As part of our ongoing series looking at marketing soccer products in the United States, we recently had a chat with Trevor Bolliger of SoccerPro.com.  Among other titles, Mr. Bolliger is the Online Marketing Ambassador for SoccerPro.com and has been with the company for more than 1.5 years.  SoccerPro.com is a leading U.S. based seller of soccer goods to fans and clubs and they sell items ranging from shoes to balls to team jerseys and more.  Mr. Bolliger provides some interesting insight into the marketing of these products in the US (including a look at target markets) and the relative popularity of MLS licensed gear.  Thanks to Mr. Bolliger.

Footiebusiness.com: What is unique about the Soccerpro site? What types of goods do you offer?

Trevor Bolliger: SoccerPro definitely isn’t the only online soccer specialty retailer. What separates SoccerPro from the others in our industry is our desire to go beyond providing the customer with the gear or apparel they want. Rather, we want to engage the soccer community through other channels. Some of our endeavors include SoccerGrow, our charity that uses our resources to assist those in need around the globe. We also recently gave away a $1000 scholarship to a collegiate soccer player after sorting through over two thousand applicants. We’re also serious about social media. We understand that the internet is changing and that relationships between a customer and a website are much more than they were two years ago. The long and short of our social media plan is that we know people can see through BS so rather than paint a façade, we communicate with them as our regular selves. One of the things about SoccerPro.com of which I am most proud is that we offer free shipping on all orders over $50. We decided $50 because the vast majority of our orders are over $50. We offer soccer gear for soccer players, replica soccer apparel and merchandise for soccer fans, and equipment for referees, coaches, and parents. Our two most popular categories are our soccer shoe section and our replica soccer jerseys category.

FB: Who is your target market? What advertising do you do to reach that market? How do customers find your site?

TB: Our target market is the 18-35 year old demographic, and it usually leans toward being a mostly male audience. We also get a lot of parents shopping for their kids. The two biggest audiences we have are soccer fans and soccer players. It can be difficult to juggle talking to both of them, but we’ve learned that there is a lot of overlap. All of our advertising is online advertising, with the small exception of local advertising that we use to promote our physical location in Columbia, MO. We stray away from obnoxious banner ads and try to create unique and interesting content online by having bloggers write about our site or holding contests to give away gift certificates or gear. We have also dabbled in some Facebook ads. People find our site from a variety of locations. Some people come in from search engines, and others come from shopping-aggregate sites. Recently we’ve seen an increase in word-of-mouth references of people who come directly to our homepage URL.

FB: In looking at your site, I noticed that you only offer jerseys for certain MLS clubs (e.g. New England Revolution are missing). How do you decide what jerseys/team gear to offer?

TB: We love the MLS. One of our founders used to play for the MLS. The biggest problem we’ve had carrying MLS jerseys is that they do not sell as well as Premier League or La Liga jerseys. We have grown nearly exponentially every year since we opened in 2004 and every year we get more and more styles of jerseys in from around the world. For example, we will be carrying more jerseys than we ever have before for the 2010 World Cup. For now we choose to order jerseys from teams that we know or predict will sell. In the future we hope to expand our MLS selection.

FB: What percentage of your sales come from the US? Of those sales, what percentage are MLS related?

TB: Almost 100% of our sales are from the US, but we do get orders from Canada. This past summer we dabbled in international shipping, but found that it wasn’t as productive as we had hoped. We still send special deliveries across the pond. While I don’t have an exact percent of how much MLS sales we conduct, I can tell you that Premier League and La Liga league jerseys outsell MLS jerseys constantly.

FB: Does SoccerPro work with youth clubs to offer bulk discounts to outfit the entire club? If not, is that something that you are interested in pursuing?

TB: SoccerPro does work with clubs and teams to provide bulk discounts. Many team items on our site (such as uniforms, bags, etc.) already include the bulk discounts. We do have a team order manager to personally assist coaches/managers with their purchases.

Thanks to Mr. Bolliger for his interesting insight into marketing soccer products in the U.S. and for providing background on SoccerPro.com


More MLS Holiday Promotions

December 16, 2009

As we said in our post on Monday, we will continue to look at MLS Holiday promotional efforts this week.  Below are some additional promotions.  For more, click here.

In Houston, the Dynamo have added a wrinkle to the typical holiday deal by offering two seats to their home opener and one Dynamo “tailgating” chair for $59.  The purchaser must also pay $9.50 for shipping.

In New York, the Red Bulls are offering a four game holiday pack that includes a Red Bulls T-Shirt for everyone package ordered.  The packages start as low $64 and permit the purchaser to select the game of their choice.  The inclusion of apparel is a great approach to these deals because it increases exposure to the team in the community every time the shirt is worn in public.  Contrast this with the Revs who are offering a wall calendar with their package.  The Red Bulls seem to be taking the smarter approach.

In Salt Lake City, the defending champs are offering an array of holiday packages that include 2 or 10 game packages.  The 2 game pack includes a mini-RSL ball, home opener ticket and ticket to one of the next two games.  RSL struggled to draw fans for the early season games last year, and this seems like a good way to encourage attendance early in the season.  The two game pack starts at $65.

If you locate any additional deals, please let us know.


Soccer Business Bits: NASL/USL Fight, ESPN Loves Soccer & More

December 15, 2009

We have not actively covered the NASL/USL/TOA dispute over the second division of American Soccer.  However, we do believe that it is definitely a subject of significant interest to American Soccer fans.  Lower division soccer aids in the development of American players, provides more exposure to the game in communities without MLS teams and provides the backdrop to Open Cup.  The ongoing dispute between the parties (which is now a lawsuit in Florida), will have a significant impact on the business of American soccer if the issues are not resolved.  We recommend MatchFit USA’s excellent coverage of this issue.   Also, check out this interview that I did with the good folks at the American Soccer Show about the legal issues involved in the dispute (once again putting on my lawyer hat for a few minutes).

In their most recent issue, the Sports Business Journal is reporting on ESPN’s substantial coverage of the World Cup.  According to SBJ, ESPN is actively working not only to interest viewers in the World Cup, but also its employees.  The World Wide Leader is assigning its employees a specific team to follow in order to raise interest among the mainstream sports fans that populate the company.  The article also describes the substantial commitment that ESPN has made to soccer, but also raises the fairly disappointing EPL TV ratings so far this year.  The article also noted that ESPN has sold 4 of its 8 major advertising slots for the Cup already.  Those 8 advertisers will account for 75% of the advertising during the ESPN broadcasts.

Finally, in a story that broke last week while we were out of action, it was announced that the Big East Conference has announced a three year deal to play the Big East Soccer Championship at Red Bull Arena.  It is great to see MLS teams partnering in this way with established college programs.  This quote from Erik Stover (courtesy of the Jersey Journal) suggests that the new Managing Director understands the importance of college soccer and of establishing relationships with non-MLS soccer organizations. “The Red Bulls organization is excited to bring the Big East Men’s Soccer Championship to Red Bull Arena.  One of our goals is to help elevate the sport of soccer in the United States and our partnership with the Big East Conference is an important step in that process.”


MLS Promotions: Holiday Deals

December 14, 2009

As we did during the regular season, we will also look at MLS promotional efforts during the Winter.  We start with some holiday deals offered around the league.

The Revs are offering a “holiday four pack” that includes tickets to four games (of your choice), first choice of seat location before general sale, a wall calendar and holiday card all for $68.  The most expensive packages sell for $260.  The calendar and card have typically been part of typical season ticket packages.

In Columbus, the Crew are offering a “five pack” which is five games of your choice for the price of four.  Purchasers also receive an autographed ball from Frankie Hejduk.  The package includes the opening match and four other games.

The Fire holiday package is a one game deal that includes four tickets and four scarves to the home opener.  Packages range from $99-$149 dollars.

Finally, the Galaxy are offering four tickets to their home opener for as little as $76.  The package also includes 4 beanies and one team holiday card.

We will hit some of the other team promotions over the next few days.


Digital MLS: How Did They Do?

December 11, 2009

The posting has been a bit light this week; there has been a “new arrival” in the family which has changed sleep/work patterns a bit, but we expect to be back on schedule next week.  For now, check out this March interview we did with SUM Digital Strategy Director Chris Schlosser about MLS’ plans for digital media and online advertising in 2009.  Read the interview, and give us your thoughts….how did MLS do? Did you notice the ads?  Did you use the Brand Thunder Booms or notice the revised website?

Chris Schlosser is the Director of Digital Strategy for SUM,  a graduate of Columbia Business School and a former employee at Microsoft in Seattle.  While at Columbia, Mr. Schlosser formed a relationship with Sunil Gulati and ultimately came to work at SUM.  He was kind enough to answer a few questions from footiebusiness.com about MLS’ digital strategy.

Footiebusiness.com: SUM recently announced the initiation of an online ad network that targets a variety of sites that soccer fans frequent.  What are the benefits to the sites and SUM in participating in the network?  What are the benefits for fans?

Chris Schlosser: Over the past seven years SUM has built significant relationships with the US commercial community, we spend every day selling soccer to Fortune 100 companies. We are using this network of clients and our experience selling soccer to drive incremental revenue for our member sites. There are lots of other ad networks out there but I can guarantee you that none of them have more experience or more focus on selling soccer. In addition to driving revenue we are working with a number of our partners on content sharing and joint marketing to grow the collective soccer audience. From a fans perspective the SUM Digital Network should over time provide significantly better content and features, as revenue grows it is our hope that this will enable our member sites to invest more money in content and features which will increase traffic and continue to drive value for both fans and the commercial community.

F.B.  How will the ads be targeted?  Who will decide which ads get placed on which sites?

C.S.  Our sales team will work with our advertising clients to create custom ad plans tailored to efficiently meet the needs of our clients. Many of our official site partners (MLS, EPL, US Soccer, etc.) have significant corporate sponsorships already in place, many of these sites maintain a category system with certain sponsors retaining exclusivity, we are used to working in this environment and will work across our network to protect existing commercial relationships. We also are focused on premium ad placements and clients, we are not going after the “fat belly” ads that are so common on many sites today.

F.B. Far more than most sports fans, MLS supporters take a direct interest in the League’s efforts to generate revenue.  How will the League be compensated?  How about the sites?

C.S. Our fans are amazing, in fact a recent SBJ study stated that MLS fans show more brand loyalty than any other sports fans in America, we even out indexed NASCAR which is built around branded experiences. We see the digital space as a significant revenue opportunity over the next 3-5 years and are investing accordingly. As a member of our network sites will see incremental revenue compared to what they are currently seeing from remnant networks or in house sales teams. Additionally SUM will see revenue from more deals and larger deals as we continue to build our presence in the digital space.

F.B. What other electronic innovations should fans be looking out for in 2009?

C.S. We have a ton planned for 2009, including some very interesting launches. You will see us launch redesigned club pages for 11 of our 15 teams this afternoon, additionally we are launching improved video experiences, team social networks (see mydynamo.net for an early example), customizable and shareable highlight videos, and much more. 2009 will be an exciting year on MLSnet and our team sites. One great example of how the league is focused on improving the online experience for fans is that we are going to double the quality of our live game streams while keeping the same cost to fans as last year at only $19.95 for the season. That means you can watch more than 100 games for less than 20 bucks, now that is a great deal.

F.B.We’ve heard about the League’s new relationship with Brand Thunder.  We will the first “booms” be unveiled?  Who will be responsible for content?  The League?  The Teams?

C.S. The first browser should launch this week, we have a league deal but will work with each team to manage content and design on the browser.


Soccer Business Bits: New BMO, Big TV Ratings & Stadium News

December 10, 2009

We’re not as against turf fields as many, but there is no doubt that MLS raises its stature and increases its chance of success as a business (by attracting those who are put off by such fields), when it converts to grass.  Such is the case in Toronto, where Field Turf is no longer and grass is on the way.  The new field will feature a state of the art system that will vaccum water out from under the field and keep the grass in great condition even during the cold weather.  The project will cost in excess of $5million.

Spanish language ratings from MLS Cup 2009 on Galavision are in and the news is quite good. Almost 500,000 watched the match on Galavision. When that number is combined with the ESPN rating for the same night, the numbers indicated that more than 1.5 million peopled watched the final.

The Wizards’ effort to build a stadium is continuing to move forward.  For those who don’t remember, the Wizards have turned their attention to Kansas as part of an effort to combine the stadium with the construction of a facility for the company Cerner. According to this article from the AP, the Cerner-Wizards deal may create 9,000 jobs in Kansas and politicians on both sides of the aisle are eager to make the deal happen.  Kansas and the local county have offered $230 million in incentives to lure Cerner and the Wizards to Kansas.  According to this article, Kansas has now offered to add more of the money up front.  Kansas is fighting with Missouri (the Bannister Mall project) to host the stadium.


Guest Commentary: WHAT MLS IS DOING RIGHT (AND WHAT IT CAN DO RIGHT NOW) TO GROW ITS POPULARITY AMONG U.S. SOCCER FANS

December 8, 2009

We are still traveling, so we thought we would re-visit this excellent guest post from Craig Codlin posted during the season.  Craig does a great job looking at MLS efforts to market its product and grow its popularity.  We should be back on Wednesday.

All season, we have focused on the efforts of individual teams to convert soccer fans to MLS fans.  We have interviewed various front office personnel, analyzed marketing efforts targeted to hardcore fans and interviewed soccer fans around the country to determine what they want from MLS.  Today, we offer the guest commentary of Craig Codlin, a 38 year old corporate attorney and lifelong soccer fan living in Seattle.  Now a Sounders season ticket holder, Craig previously lived in New York City and endured multiple losing MetroStars seasons.  He is a fan of all things MLS and today provides us with some great insight into the League’s effort to keep and retain fans.  Thanks to Craig for some outstanding analysis.

Don Garber, the commissioner of MLS, recently articulated an important concept relating to the way MLS is going to be marketing itself in the future.  Essentially, he said that he believes there are plenty of soccer fans in the U.S. and that MLS’s job is to convert these soccer fans into fans of the League. This is important in many ways, not least of which is the apparent complete shedding of the original plan MLS had and stuck with for many years, which was to focus most of its energy to selling its product to the U.S. non-soccer fan.  The theory, I imagine, was that MLS would already have the diehard soccer fans in its pocket just by virtue of showing up in the U.S. and filling the void and that it should spend its resources on converting the non-soccer fans into fans.  As we all know, this was a flawed approach, resulting in such horrors in the early years as the game clock that counted down to zero and the “shootouts” to avoid the seeming travesty of a tie.

Soccer fans in the U.S. are a fiercely loyal and stalwart bunch.  They show up at pubs at 8am to watch games in Europe and they endure the constant barrage of barbs and verbal jabs that come from the general American sports media and fans who sometimes seem to feel that the possibility that soccer could gain a toehold in this country is a personal affront to everything American.  But because of their fundamental love for the sport, nobody else can bring as much passion to the stadiums, and as solid numbers to the TV broadcasts, as this group of people. But getting this group to embrace MLS, when they are generally more inclined to spend their soccer viewing time watching higher quality European, Mexican or national matches (even more so given the abundance of high quality soccer currently available on cable and satellite)is an immense challenge. I do not believe it is insurmountable, but it will take some time, partially because MLS in many ways dug a hole with this group of fans from the outset due to its focus on the soccer-mom families instead of the true U.S. soccer fan.

I believe that there are three actions that MLS is currently taking (or in the process of taking) that will greatly enhance its ability to bridge the gap and pique the interest of the U.S. soccer fan who has not yet embraced the League. seattle

Building and Cultivating Regional Rivalries. One of the major problems MLS confronts from a marketing perspective is that its geographic spread (which, of course, includes Canada) is much larger than almost all (if not all) of the existing domestic leagues world-wide, with major population centers spaced thousands of miles apart, making it much more difficult to cultivate interest outside of the cities that have teams. If you live anywhere in England, you are at worst a short train ride away from an EPL club and if you live in a major population center such as London there are many teams all within a ride on the Tube.  The proximity of all of the teams naturally creates intense rivalries, which in any sport generates interest. MLS simply does not have a situation where all of the teams can be in relative proximity to one another, so it must foster regional rivalries. The addition of Philadelphia, whose sports fans bear chips on their shoulders as the red-headed step-child city of the Mid-Atlantic, and two more Pacific Northwest teams, will clearly help.  The hope is that their entrance into MLS will create pockets of intense regional rivalries on which the League can build interest and a broader fan base. The first time Seattle Sounders FC heads into Portland, you can bet that the game will be nationally televised and promoted, simply to get as many U.S. fans as possible seeing a stadium packed to capacity with passionate fans creating complete and utter bedlam.  I would imagine that any soccer fan in the U.S. would find it worth their time to spend two hours watching that game, the same way that many hard core baseball fans country-wide love seeing the Red Sox and Yankees square off in meaningful October games.  The addition of Montreal would also create a natural rivalry with Toronto, which will also be great for the League. Putting aside the quality of the play on the field for a moment, nothing gets the U.S. sports fan more excited than the perception that a sporting event is something more than just a game, but rather something that is greater than the sum of its parts.  Stands filled to capacity with screaming, chanting, passionate fans helps create that perception.  Which leads me to…

rio tintoStadiums: Even on television (and even more so in person), there is a vast difference between seeing a game played in a fantastic venue like Rio Tinto or HDC versus converted baseball stadiums (with pitchers mounds in full view, tiny dimensions and horrible fan sight lines) and cavernous football stadiums (particularly once the NFL and college football get started and the additional lines on the pitch make die hard soccer fans’ eyes bleed). Thank goodness, assuming there are no unpleasant surprises, MLS is in the process of building great new stadiums in Houston, San Jose, Kansas City, Philadelphia, Portland and New York, all of which should be completed and fully functioning by 2012 (and all of which, other than Portland, will have natural grass surfaces, I believe). Only Seattle (which seems to work, even in a large stadium…for now), New England (which will not change in the foreseeable future), D.C. (which is actively seeking a new stadium deal) and Vancouver (which sees B.C. Place as a temporary home with a waterfront soccer stadium on its wish list) will be left in gigantic football stadiums, and there will be no more minor league baseball or small college football stadium eyesores left. This alone will make MLS seem much less “minor league” to traditional soccer fans. Getting the soccer specific stadiums filled, of course, is still a challenge (see Colorado and Dallas as prime examples), but I believe that as more and more games are played in proper soccer venues, soccer fans will as a whole take MLS more seriously and begin to show up in greater numbers.  Also, with the vast majority of MLS teams having permanent homes for which they control the scheduling, the League will be seen as more financially stable, eliminating the concern for fans that they will be getting themselves invested emotionally and financially in a team and league that could disappear at any time.  Ideally, MLS will do its best to ensure that future stadium projects are as close to downtown epicenters (or at least easily accessible public transportation from those epicenters) as possible, since those stadiums tend to draw the best crowds. Of course, in the end, it is the product on the field that will do the most to win over the hearts and minds of the U.S. soccer fans, leading me to probably my most important point…

collective bargainThe Collective Bargaining Agreement. While the traditional management stance since the beginning of time has always been to keep wages as low as possible, MLS needs to take a giant, progressive leap forward here and take a position which for management will seem counter intuitive. MLS teams have got to have the ability to pay, and therefore retain, their quality players, particularly the players that they spent the time to develop.  The wages paid to second and third tier players (after the designated players, of course) are disgraceful by any standard, much more so for a professional sports league that considers itself “major league”.  Even the top tiered non-DP players have every incentive to leave the U.S. for even minor European leagues since the pay discrepancy is so vast (Kasey Keller has stated he was offered three times as much as his $300,000 salary with the Sounders to play in the Romanian league).  Keeping as much domestic talent as possible (understanding that, for now, almost all truly world class U.S. players will still bolt for Europe if given the opportunity) should be a huge priority for MLS.  Not only does it keep recognizable American faces here, but it increases stability for the teams within MLS to be able to build their team (and their brand) around a core of high quality American players. Knowing that the same players will (generally) be around from year to year fosters more fan loyalty and, not coincidentally, sales of player-related merchandise such as jerseys. Currently, MLS team strategy seems to be to sign one aging big name DP plus a couple of decent players, and then to fill in the gaps with the chaff of dirt cheap, interchangeable parts. The solution to this problem is conveniently available right now, as the League is conducting its collective bargaining agreement negotiations with the MLS players union. The cap needs to be loosened considerably (possibly with a Larry Bird-rule type exception, allowing teams to keep the stars they cultivate) or, at the very least, should be more than tripled to around $6-7M (plus the DP exception) with annual lock-step percentage increases to the cap each year during the life of the new collective bargaining agreement. This action alone will immediately increase the quality of the product on the field and allow MLS franchises room to develop and sign players good enough to create much higher quality play league-wide on the pitch. MLS needs to be forward thinking about this and understand that while the “NASL dilemma” makes this step a bit scary, there is a way to do this smartly that will dramatically increase the league’s credibility among the U.S. soccer fan.

With the “Summer of Soccer” being an unquestioned success at both the turnstiles and in the amount of attention heaped upon it by the mainstream media, the time is right for MLS to make its sales pitch to the U.S. soccer fan.  By continuing to take the steps MLS seems to be consciously taking to foster rivalries, as well as building stadiums that represent well the sport we love, MLS has begun making much better choices to appeal to this crucial base of fans.  But in the end, the quality on the pitch will be the ultimate determining factor as to whether these fans will buy-in to the MLS experience.  The collective bargaining agreement is the tool with which the League can finally make a huge statement to these fans that it understands that quality of play is the single most important thing a soccer league can offer.  It is time to shed some (but not all) of MLS’s fiscal conservatism and give MLS teams the flexibility to go out and build quality clubs that have the capability to play aesthetically pleasing, competitive soccer.


Selling the Gear: A Look at Soccer Merchandising

December 7, 2009

On the move for the next couple of days, so here is our quick take on a recent article about the sale of soccer merchandise in the United States and around the world. OregonLive presents an interesting article on Adidas marketing efforts for the 2010 World Cup.  The article provides in depth analysis on the soccer apparel industry and efforts to sell sporting goods in the current market.

The article focuses on Adidas’ worldwide efforts to market its product and the importance of the World Cup in spreading brand awareness.  Sales for the sporting goods giant are down significantly, and World Cup 2006 provided a significant boost that Adidas hopes to equal or surpass. However, for MLS fans, there is this juicy quote:

“To build its U.S. soccer edge, Adidas paid a reported $150 million over 10 years to sponsor and outfit men’s Major League Soccer, which is expanding to 18 teams and drew 3.6 million spectators this year. Stu Crystal, MLS marketing vice president, said annual sales of league-licensed merchandise has grown more than 600 percent, to $300 million, since the Adidas partnership began in 2005. “Being connected to Major League Soccer gives Adidas exposure to millions of soccer fans and reinforces its position with the sport,” he said.”

While the Beckham effect is certainly an enormous contributing factor to the exponential growth referenced above, this is obviously a good sign for the league.  Selling merchandise can have a snowball effect, as brand awareness can ultimate increase sales.  The article provides some great data and we recommend the read.


Soccer Business Bits: ESPN Coverage, Revs Respond & More

December 4, 2009

The day of the big World Cup draw has arrived and ESPN has big plans to cover the event with maximum fanfare. ESPN2 will provide three hours of coverage and will include usual suspects Harkes, Lalas and more to break down the action.  It is fairly remarkable that we have reached the stage in American soccer where the World Cup draw rates a three hour presentation.  ESPN.com also has fairly extensive coverage of the draw with both text and video stories.

A number of months back, we conducted an interview with Revs COO Brian Bilello about the Revs’ marketing effort.  It’s no surprise that the Revs front office has been taking some heat for their playoff attendance and fan/team relationships. Full credit to Bilello for taking questions and providing detailed responses to fans on the Revs’ official forums.  We recommend checking out this site.

Finally, we are an American soccer blog, but when a team in the EPL can’t pay its players, it is something that bears reference.  Such is the situation in Portsmouth. Salary cap anyone?


Soccer Business Bits: Leiweke Honored, Ching Lends a Hand

December 3, 2009

Seattle Sounders CEO Tod Leiweke has been honored by the Puget Sound Business Journal as the Business Executive of the Year.  Leiweke was recognized largely for his work in bringing MLS to Seattle and for the explosion of interest in the Sounders and MLS.  As the Puget Sound Business Journal is not a sports publication, this represents important mainstream recognition of the Sounders’ success.  Leiweke is also being honored for his work with the United Way of King County.

Speaking of charity, kudos to Brian Ching for his work with Habitat for Humanity.   The Houston forward has committed to raising $65k for the charity in partnership with Dynamo Charities.  He has been interviewed on local television as part of his efforts and has generated exposure for both his good works and the Dynamo.  According to the folks at “Critical Mention”, the exposure was worth more than $11k in exposure.

Finally, MLS is teaming up with new sponsor Degree to direct fans to this unique link. The primary language, but you can also hear the ad in English.  Degree is being announced as a sponsor for MLS and for the Mexican National Team.


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