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	<title>Comments on: Bringing the Fans to MLS: Part II- Families</title>
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		<title>By: Bringing the Fans to MLS: The Soccer Hater &#171; Footiebusiness</title>
		<link>http://footiebusiness.com/2009/08/07/bringing-the-fans-to-mls-part-ii-families/#comment-8413</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bringing the Fans to MLS: The Soccer Hater &#171; Footiebusiness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] game”.  This is part four of our MLS attendance series.  You can see part I here,  part II here and part III here. We have collected anecdotes from hundreds of friends, coworkers, fans, families, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Bringing the Fans to MLS: Soccer Fans &#171; Footiebusiness</title>
		<link>http://footiebusiness.com/2009/08/07/bringing-the-fans-to-mls-part-ii-families/#comment-8386</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is part three of our MLS attendance series.  You can see part I here and part II here. We have collected anecdotes from hundreds of friends, coworkers, fans, familes, store owners and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: FIFA 2011 Hits the Stores: The Business of Video Games &#171; Footiebusiness</title>
		<link>http://footiebusiness.com/2009/08/07/bringing-the-fans-to-mls-part-ii-families/#comment-6454</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 01:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is part five of our MLS attendance series.  You can see part I here,  part II here, part III here and part IV here. We have collected anecdotes from hundreds of friends, coworkers, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is part five of our MLS attendance series.  You can see part I here,  part II here, part III here and part IV here. We have collected anecdotes from hundreds of friends, coworkers, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Business Bits: Video Games and MLS Attendance: Fifa &#8216;10 Hits the Shelves &#171; Footiebusiness</title>
		<link>http://footiebusiness.com/2009/08/07/bringing-the-fans-to-mls-part-ii-families/#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Soccer Business Bits: Video Games and MLS Attendance: Fifa &#8216;10 Hits the Shelves &#171; Footiebusiness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is part five of our MLS attendance series.  You can see part I here,  part II here, part III here and part IV here. We have collected anecdotes from hundreds of friends, coworkers, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://footiebusiness.com/2009/08/07/bringing-the-fans-to-mls-part-ii-families/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baseball is an example of a sport that has thrown in their entire lot with families. As a result, many parks are quiet, sterile places where you risk ejection merely for heckling too loud. But MLB values the dollars of parents who buy their kids $50 seats (that the kids end up not sitting in much, if at all) and feel obligated to buy the family a full meal from the concessions (and then grumble about the price).

MLS should not make families its primary concern. Instead, focus on every young person who played soccer as a child but is now old enough to have their own disposable income. They will drink high-profit beer, join supporter groups that encourage them to come more often (or buy season tickets), blog and tweet, and develop a deeper bond with the team.

That&#039;s not to say that (as stated above) there shouldn&#039;t be family sections. Sounders FC put inexpensive &quot;all inclusive&quot; seating at the opposite end of the stadium from the supporters&#039; group sections, so that parents can treat their kids to &quot;free&quot; soda and snacks while keeping them from the rowdy, standing, banner-waving supporters.

But family items should be one niche and not the meat and potatoes. Make a nice place for them, but don&#039;t sterilize the experience for the love of their money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baseball is an example of a sport that has thrown in their entire lot with families. As a result, many parks are quiet, sterile places where you risk ejection merely for heckling too loud. But MLB values the dollars of parents who buy their kids $50 seats (that the kids end up not sitting in much, if at all) and feel obligated to buy the family a full meal from the concessions (and then grumble about the price).</p>
<p>MLS should not make families its primary concern. Instead, focus on every young person who played soccer as a child but is now old enough to have their own disposable income. They will drink high-profit beer, join supporter groups that encourage them to come more often (or buy season tickets), blog and tweet, and develop a deeper bond with the team.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that (as stated above) there shouldn&#8217;t be family sections. Sounders FC put inexpensive &#8220;all inclusive&#8221; seating at the opposite end of the stadium from the supporters&#8217; group sections, so that parents can treat their kids to &#8220;free&#8221; soda and snacks while keeping them from the rowdy, standing, banner-waving supporters.</p>
<p>But family items should be one niche and not the meat and potatoes. Make a nice place for them, but don&#8217;t sterilize the experience for the love of their money.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Berger</title>
		<link>http://footiebusiness.com/2009/08/07/bringing-the-fans-to-mls-part-ii-families/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Berger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are interesting ideas, but perhaps the best option is simply to have someone whispering in their ear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are interesting ideas, but perhaps the best option is simply to have someone whispering in their ear.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://footiebusiness.com/2009/08/07/bringing-the-fans-to-mls-part-ii-families/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As John Reyes has said, the game is free flowing. It is more difficult to explain the more subtle aspects of the game in play-by-play.

This got me thinking, perhaps during half time a games they can show the stadium main &quot;jumbotron&quot;(or at half time shows of televised matches) a quick tutorial on things that are difficult to explain in a couple of seconds.

These 1-2 minute lessons could help better educate supporters/viewers on formations, illustrate more complex rules, teach skills (traps, back heels, crosses, dummies, etc) and teach the responsibilities of ref and assistant refs. This probably would be popular and would have no problem having sponsored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As John Reyes has said, the game is free flowing. It is more difficult to explain the more subtle aspects of the game in play-by-play.</p>
<p>This got me thinking, perhaps during half time a games they can show the stadium main &#8220;jumbotron&#8221;(or at half time shows of televised matches) a quick tutorial on things that are difficult to explain in a couple of seconds.</p>
<p>These 1-2 minute lessons could help better educate supporters/viewers on formations, illustrate more complex rules, teach skills (traps, back heels, crosses, dummies, etc) and teach the responsibilities of ref and assistant refs. This probably would be popular and would have no problem having sponsored.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryD</title>
		<link>http://footiebusiness.com/2009/08/07/bringing-the-fans-to-mls-part-ii-families/#comment-536</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the idea of a family section instead of promoting the entire game to families. Go to a baseball game if you want to sit around with kids who don&#039;t have a clue what they are watching and really don&#039;t care.

I believe that several MLS clubs already allow you to request tickets based on qualifiers like &quot;no alcohol&quot; (yikes!).

Also, the league needs to just accept the disparity between forwards and defenders and stop allowing the defenders to mug forwards in a misguided attempt to bring balance to the game. It only makes the game more unbalanced in the long-run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of a family section instead of promoting the entire game to families. Go to a baseball game if you want to sit around with kids who don&#8217;t have a clue what they are watching and really don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>I believe that several MLS clubs already allow you to request tickets based on qualifiers like &#8220;no alcohol&#8221; (yikes!).</p>
<p>Also, the league needs to just accept the disparity between forwards and defenders and stop allowing the defenders to mug forwards in a misguided attempt to bring balance to the game. It only makes the game more unbalanced in the long-run.</p>
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		<title>By: John Reyes</title>
		<link>http://footiebusiness.com/2009/08/07/bringing-the-fans-to-mls-part-ii-families/#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Reyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mean to get off into a rant here but let me first start off by addressing the blog post and then move on to respond to some of the other comments here.

I think families are pretty well addressed by MLS marketing campaigns, while as you pointed out the mediums used to reach the audience is frequently seemingly novice if not completely misguided.  It&#039;s as you already pointed out, when a franchise only puts it&#039;s greatest offers out to the people who are on the website, well they are missing the opportunity for growth.

But the problem with explaining the game is a problem that comes from the pace and free-flowing nature of the game. I compare soccer with American football for example.  In American football the game affords itself, due to the stop and go pace, to explanation.  Between each play the commentators have to fill the gaps and explaining and reviewing the previous play is a great use of that time.  I will admit, that even as young as 10-years old I was learning about cover-two defenses and zone-blocking schemes due to television coverage.  But things like that in soccer coverage you will never pick up on.  It wasn&#039;t until I combined over 17 years of playing experience, with 4 years of refereeing and finally dashed in my 8 years of coaching before I really felt I developed any time of deep understanding of the game.  I never really gained a nugget, even about the offsides rule from television coverage despite seeing the replays over years and years.

I have to admit I have always been very disappointed with the television coverage in that never really talk these points up.  I watch people who are pros and supposedly have years more soccer experience and knowledge than me but they never explain nor point out the elements that people should be impressed with or that novices wouldn&#039;t understand.

Now regarding the comments.  I think separating the fans into special areas is almost especially un-American.  However, I think something should be done to allow fans to also be educated about the difference in the atmosphere of soccer.  I again liken this to failure of soccer coverage to educate people on the differences of the game. But I think some of the blame also must be put on us, the hardcore soccer fans.  We are not doing a good job of inviting these casual new fans who are actually at the games or watching the game with us into our understanding.

Just my two cents, fellas.  Keep up the great work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to get off into a rant here but let me first start off by addressing the blog post and then move on to respond to some of the other comments here.</p>
<p>I think families are pretty well addressed by MLS marketing campaigns, while as you pointed out the mediums used to reach the audience is frequently seemingly novice if not completely misguided.  It&#8217;s as you already pointed out, when a franchise only puts it&#8217;s greatest offers out to the people who are on the website, well they are missing the opportunity for growth.</p>
<p>But the problem with explaining the game is a problem that comes from the pace and free-flowing nature of the game. I compare soccer with American football for example.  In American football the game affords itself, due to the stop and go pace, to explanation.  Between each play the commentators have to fill the gaps and explaining and reviewing the previous play is a great use of that time.  I will admit, that even as young as 10-years old I was learning about cover-two defenses and zone-blocking schemes due to television coverage.  But things like that in soccer coverage you will never pick up on.  It wasn&#8217;t until I combined over 17 years of playing experience, with 4 years of refereeing and finally dashed in my 8 years of coaching before I really felt I developed any time of deep understanding of the game.  I never really gained a nugget, even about the offsides rule from television coverage despite seeing the replays over years and years.</p>
<p>I have to admit I have always been very disappointed with the television coverage in that never really talk these points up.  I watch people who are pros and supposedly have years more soccer experience and knowledge than me but they never explain nor point out the elements that people should be impressed with or that novices wouldn&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>Now regarding the comments.  I think separating the fans into special areas is almost especially un-American.  However, I think something should be done to allow fans to also be educated about the difference in the atmosphere of soccer.  I again liken this to failure of soccer coverage to educate people on the differences of the game. But I think some of the blame also must be put on us, the hardcore soccer fans.  We are not doing a good job of inviting these casual new fans who are actually at the games or watching the game with us into our understanding.</p>
<p>Just my two cents, fellas.  Keep up the great work.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Berger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are interesting thoughts.  When it comes to the rules of the game, the sense I got was that these parents were looked for a second level analysis...(e.g. the relative merits of certain formations, advantage calls, etc....).  I&#039;m not sure if this informatino can be conveyed in a booklet...yet the idea of handing out something covered with team info is appealing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are interesting thoughts.  When it comes to the rules of the game, the sense I got was that these parents were looked for a second level analysis&#8230;(e.g. the relative merits of certain formations, advantage calls, etc&#8230;.).  I&#8217;m not sure if this informatino can be conveyed in a booklet&#8230;yet the idea of handing out something covered with team info is appealing.</p>
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